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Naftali Zeligman and Yaron Yadan Asper, Yisrael Jan 01, 2006

Naftali Zeligman appears to be identical with Yaron Yadan the maker and author for the Daat Emet site. Yaron Yadan writes on Daat Emet "Never is life spontaneously created from inanimate materials." Scientists though say that the conditions for the origin of a species requires life from nonlife. Questions of ultimate origins he claims are meaningless. They are not meaningless to scientists.

Daat Emet also rejects creation from nothing not from anything in physics but out of his own outdated view of science. Creation from nothing is nowadays believed in thanks to Einstein and is challenged only by those who wish to reconcile it with Quantum Mechanics in a way that would eliminate Creation from nothing. Their efforts have not amounted to Orthodox science as it has come to nowhere except to help towards a grander picture of some future theory to come. More properly speaking since time and space came into being through the universe and would die with the death of the universe the universe has a first moment but no moment before. By definition there was nothing happening before the Big Bang because there was no time and so no before to be had.

Daat Emet writes Parthenogenesis is sexual reproduction, but that "the female provides the impregnating material to the egg she produces." Parthenogenesis is not sexual reproduction. On the contrary Parthenogenesis is defined as reproduction from an unfertilized egg. Fertilized eggs by definition are eggs that have been fertilized through sexual reproduction. Sexual reproduction by definition involves male and female reproductive contributions whether from two beings or plants etc. or even one.

Naftali Zeligman (pen name for Yaron Yadan??) wrote in Talk Reason before his supposed incarnation as a Chareidi struggling to maintain his faith in the face of arguments to the contrary and waiting in vain for his helpless Rabbi to say anything. The guy's a faker. He wrote against Orthodoxy at the time and yet his article is reproduced on Yaron Yadan's Daat Emet's site described on it http://www.daatemet.co.il/en_index.html as

"New on the Site:

Letter to My Rabbi
A letter from a Charedi intellectual
who lives between two worlds: reason and faith."

Sincerely
Yisrael Asper

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No reply from Schroeder? Carnes, Paula Dec 24, 2005

You guys are pretty funny talking about freedom of speech and wondering why Gerald Schroeder has not responded to you in seven years. You wouldn't accept his papers if he did respond. That's a great example of "free speech."

It does seem to me that you folks have a religion of sorts first followed by only the science that supports your religion.

I have trouble figuring out why you are so exercised over Creationism except that you hold an opposing RELIGIOUS, and equally unprovable, faith. You see even atheism requires faith.

Paula Carnes

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in 2006 there is nuclear holocaust in coded in the bible is it true. please get back to me with an answer

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If yes, is there a good rebuttal?

I have attempted to read a couple papers by Dembski but he seems to be looking for evidence that some human-like intelligence designed the world -- example of finding an arrowhead with evidence of design rather than "just natural processes." As usual, the whole approach seems to be lacking any testable hypothesis. Maybe I just missed it...

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Kudos Soderman, Pete Dec 20, 2005

Re: The decision of Judge Jones in Kitzmiller vs. DASD

I just read the decision. Could have been written by Branch, Perakh, or Dawkins. He not only buried them, he destroyed the shovel! Great going, have a super Holiday & all my best to all the troops.

Pete Soderman

PS: Tell Mark Perakh I love his Unintelligent Design book.

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