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How to falsify ID Gallien , Joe Feb 01, 2006

If it is demonstrated that life can arise from non-living matter via unintelligent, blind/ undirected processes, biological ID is falsified.

The bottom line is as Dr. Behe states- you can't have it both ways- you can't say that ID is un-falsifiable and then say you have data that would falsify it- as Miller and others have done.

However the best way to falsify ID is to actually substantiate your anti-ID claims- mainly that unintelligent, blind/ undirected (non-goal oriented) processes can account for what we observe.

Let me ask this:

How can we falsify the notion that humans "evolved" from non-humans via some blind watchmaker-type process?

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How to falsify ID Rossow, Amiel Feb 07, 2006

John Paul wrote: "If it is demonstrated that life can arise from non-living matter via unintelligent, blind/undirected processes, biological ID is falsified."

Not true. Whatever processes, guided or unguided, are shown to be the path of evolution, ID advocates always can claim that this is just how God (pardon, the designer!) chose to do it. John Paul seems to have not comprehended Reulsnd's thesis: while certain particular concepts of ID may be falsifiable (like IC), the general ID hypothesis is non-falsifiable.

Evolution theory is quite diffrent: it comprises certain indispensable subordinate concepts such that falsifying any of them would automatically falsify the entire ET. Recall the famous example of a rabbit fossil in, say,
the Ediacara stratum.

Amiel Rossow